Legislature(2001 - 2002)

02/08/2002 03:34 PM Senate RES

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           SB 255-LAND EXCHANGES: GOLD CORD DEVELOPMENT                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN TORGERSON announced SB 255 to be up for consideration.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. JERRY BURNETT, staff to Senator  Lyda Green, sponsor of SB 255,                                                             
said the  measure provides for  legislative approval of  an unequal                                                             
land  exchange   between  the  State   of  Alaska  and   Gold  Cord                                                             
Development,  Inc.,  and incorporates  a  proposed  change to  land                                                             
trade  statutes to  remove legislative  approval  for unequal  land                                                             
exchanges with a value of less than $5 million. He explained:                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska  State  Parks  has  been  working  since  1978  to                                                                  
     develop an  opportunity for private reuse  and management                                                                  
     of historic  buildings at  Independence Mine  State Park.                                                                  
     To facilitate  road access to the underground  mine tour,                                                                  
     the State  of Alaska  sought an  exchange with  Gold Cord                                                                  
     Inc., an  owner of  a critical section  of the  road. The                                                                  
     state held an  easement across the property  that was not                                                                  
     of   sufficient    size   to    accommodate   anticipated                                                                  
     reconstruction to  provide for  bus access.  In addition,                                                                  
     Gold Cord held a federal  mining claim that extended into                                                                  
     the  existing  park  boundaries. The  exchange  has  been                                                                  
     agreed to by all parties. The  state trades away no land,                                                                  
     but provides the  process by which Gold  Cord can receive                                                                  
     fee  title  to  19  acres   of  land  valued  at  $63,000                                                                  
     currently held by Gold Cord as federal mining claims.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     The  state  receives  about  six  acres  of  land  valued                                                                  
     at$68,500 from  Gold Cord. Because  the state  brought no                                                                  
     land to  trade and  because final  values are  not equal,                                                                  
     the  transaction   requires  legislative   approval.  The                                                                  
     difference  here is  $5,500. The  Alaska Legislature  has                                                                  
     approved   another   unequal   value  exchange   at   the                                                                  
     Independence Mine State Park between  the State of Alaska                                                                  
     and Alaska Hard Rock Inc. for access in the year 2000.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     In  addition to  the  Gold Cord  trade  approval, SB  255                                                                  
     allows for administrative approval  of land trades with a                                                                  
     value of under $5 million.  Currently by statute, unequal                                                                  
     exchanges that  do not  benefit the  State of  Alaska are                                                                  
     not allowed. Any land exchange,  whether equal or unequal                                                                  
     in value, involves only willing participants.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Under  existing statute,  even though  all parties  agree                                                                  
     and  the state comes  out ahead,  unequal exchanges  must                                                                  
     still receive  legislature approval. Any  exchange, equal                                                                  
     or unequal, over  $5 million in state  value, would still                                                                  
     come  before  the  legislature for  approval.  Since  the                                                                  
     exchange  must benefit  the state  in  any case,  unequal                                                                  
     value  exchanges  under the  $5  million level  could  be                                                                  
     accomplished   administratively  to  enhance   efficiency                                                                  
     under the terms of this legislation.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN TORGERSON asked why "the environs" was deleted on page 2,                                                              
lines 17 and 18.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. BURNETT  answered that any land  exchange must be a  benefit to                                                             
the State  of Alaska, whether  it's equal  or unequal in  value. In                                                             
order  to  enhance the  efficiency  of  the Department  of  Natural                                                             
Resources,  they  requested  a   section  to  allow  administrative                                                             
approval of  unequal land exchanges.   This is the  policy decision                                                             
for the legislature.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN  TORGERSON asked  what would  happen if  they delete  that                                                             
section and whether that would  accomplish what Senator Green wants                                                             
to do.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. RON  SWANSON, Director, Community Development,  Mat-Su Borough,                                                             
supported  SB 255. He  stated, "We  feel it  fully compliments  our                                                             
plan for  ski resort development that's  located close by.  It will                                                             
make the  area a very good  tourist destination facility."  He said                                                             
the  Borough Assembly  in  a resolution  it  passed  on January  15                                                             
endorsed the exchange.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CAROL CARROLL,  Director, Administrative  Services, DNR,  said                                                             
DNR  put the  section on  administrative approval  for land  values                                                             
under  $5 million  before the  legislature  because it  has done  a                                                             
couple   of  small   value  exchanges   and  found   administrative                                                             
efficiencies in doing so.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN  TORGERSON asked  her if  she supported  the bill  without                                                             
that section. She said she did.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HALFORD moved to delete Section 2 [Amendment 1].                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELTON  asked if the  net effect,  in future cases  in which                                                             
the value is greater  to the state than to the  other land owner if                                                             
Section 2 is  not deleted, would be to give  DNR the administrative                                                             
latitude  to make  a  decision on  its own  without  coming to  the                                                             
legislature.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  HALFORD said  that is correct,  but added  that the  other                                                             
values to the state may be subjective.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
There was no further discussion and Amendment 1 was adopted.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILKEN  moved to  pass CSSB 255  (RES) from  committee with                                                             
individual recommendations and its zero  fiscal note. There were no                                                             
objections and it was so ordered.                                                                                               

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